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![[Holland American Line]](../images/n/nl~holam.gif)
by
Al Fisher, 31 January 1999
Holland Amerika Lijn. Holland America Line was the alias with the company
being formed 1873 as Nederlandsche - Amerikaansche Stoomvaart Maatschappij
N.V. hence the letters on the flag. Sources vary as to whether there were
dots after the letters. In 1971 the name was changed to Holland-Amerika
Lijn and a new flag was adopted, orange with 3 elongated panels one above
the other with the sides angled from lower hoist to upper fly, the central
one being white and the outer ones blue with "Bilderdyk" launched in December
1971 being the first ship to fly it. Another slightly different version
of this flag with the field white and the central panel being a darker
blue with the panel corners being of a "flowing" design appears on the
Josef
Nüsse's site. In 1976 the company relocated to the USA where it
continues now as Holland America Westours Inc. still with an orange flag
but now bearing a seascape of a liner dwarfing an old fashioned sailing
vessel all in black in white within a circular black outlined white annulet
frame.
Neale Rosanoski, 25 Sep 2003
![[Holland American Line 1971]](../images/n/nl~hal1.gif)
by Jarig Bakker, 5 Oct 2003
![[Holland America Westours (1976)]](../images/n/nl~hal2.gif)
by Jarig Bakker, 5 Oct 2003
![[Holland America Line present flag]](../images/n/nl~hal3.gif)
by Jarig Bakker, 28 Nov 2003
Having just returned from a Caribbean cruise on a HAL ship m.s. Volendam,
I can report that the Holland America Line is currently using the following
is currently the house flag:
the HAL logo (currently portayed on our website--consisting of a stylized
portrayal of the New Amsterdam II with one of Hudson's Halve Maen in front)
on a field of a horizontal dark blue-white-dark blue triband (instead of
orange as shown in our website). I don't have any info as to when the switch
from orange to blue-white-blue may have occurred, but there is no question
as to the present usage. The house flag was being flown on the ship as
well as from a flagpole on the HAL-leased island Half Moon Cay (the latter
with Bahamian and Dutch flags)
Norman Martin, 28 Nov 2003
Here is my attempt to fit the description - I found a flag like that
on this
website. According to that website it's a division of the HAL, but
that need not necessarily hold true...
Jarig Bakker, 28 Nov 2003
This is worth further investigation; I cruised with HAL three times
(1997-2000; Westerdam, Veendam, Volendam) and IIRC all three flew the orange
version of the flag. Perhaps they've changed the logo or perhaps they've
reorganized the company internally, possibly by country of registry (Westerdam
is Dutch, the other two Bahamian, I think.).
HAL is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Carnival Cruise Lines (US) these
days.
Albert S. Kirsch, 28 Nov 2003
![[Holland America Westours logo]](../images/n/nl~)hal.jpg)
from this website.
If Tiemen could provide some ship names from the photos/postcards it
may provide a lead. I cannot find any mention of such a company but it
is possible that it refers to a service and it fits that in October 1889
Holland America incorporated a call at Boulogne with their Amsterdam and
Rotterdam service to New York. At times joint services were operated by
various lines and ships became interchangeable but still retained their
own liveries, particularly after 1902 when the American combine International
Mercantile Marine Co. took over many companies, including Holland America
although by 1917 they had regained their independence.
Neal Rosanoski, 6 Dec 2003
Further detail indicates that the photos and postcards of vessels of
Compagnie France-Hollando-Américaine S.A. were taken whilst they
were acting as tenders to sundry ocean liners and that the flags they were
flying were the houseflags of the liner companies concerned.
Neale Rosanoski, 17 Oct 2004