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Pakistan - Unidentified flags

In the days following the 11 September 2001 attacks on USA, and political the manoeuvering that followed, many demonstrations occurred in Pakistan. At these demonstrations several flags were commonly seen, most of which we have been unable to satisfactorily identify. We present these below, with the request that if you recognise any, you inform the editor of this page.

Unidentified Pakistani flag or ensign (UFE) 1
Unidentified Pakistani flag or ensign (UFE) 2

See also:

Party Sipâh-e-Sâhaba

The flags shown in the first section below appear to be related to the Party Sipâh-e-Sâhaba flag, although they are increasingly different from the flag reported by Michel Lupant on our page on the Party Sipâh-e-Sâhaba:

by Santiago Dotor

In a recent TV report about a demonstration in Pakistan against US intervention in Afghanistan, I spotted a flag which I have been unable to find in FOTW. It is somewhat reminiscent of that of Jammu and Kashmir, but certainly different. It shows a green field with white crescent and star pointing to the bottom fly, with a canton made of seven (perhaps only five) stripes blue-white and the remaining half of the hoist (i.e., beneath the canton) red. The star is somewhat elaborate. I am in doubt as to the proportions of the flag, looking at the image I would think it was 1:2 rather than 2:3, but I seem to recall the hoist defacements certainly looked like two square areas as in my image,
Santiago Dotor, 19 September 2001

This flag has been reported before as a flag used in Pakistani-occupied Kashmir, perhaps even the flag of the Pakistani Kashmir. I'm not aware of any connection with the Taliban or Bin Laden's group.
Jorge Candeias, 19 September 2001

I believe the contributor is comparing this flag to that of the Azad Kashmir. It is in fact quite different from the Azad Kashmir flag.
Santiago Dotor, 20 September 2001

by Jorge Candeias

I've seen today this flag in the reports about demonstrations in Peshawar. It appeared here and there in the middle of a sea of Jamiat al Islami flags. I was paying close attention this time, and I came to a couple of conclusions somewhat different to Santiago's. For one, I'm almost positive that the stripes in the canton are white and black instead of blue and white. And then, it seemed to me that the "star" is curved rather than angular, sort of flower-like.

I do agree with Santiago's assertions about sizes and ratios. The red and black and white areas at the hoist are positively square, leaving another, larger, square at the hoist. The crescent, though, was placed as in the Pakistani flag, pointing 45º up and toward the fly, and the whole crescent+"flower" device seemed to me a lot larger than in Santiago's image.
Jorge Candeias, 28 September 2001

I also saw those images with several similar flags. I still have the impression that the stripes are dark blue, but not so dark as to be mistaken with black. I also agree about the orientation of the emblem, with respect to the recent TV images. However I am very sure that the first one I saw days ago had the emblem pointing to lower fly, as in my image. Most probably these flags do not have specifications, so that different handed- and industry-made versions co-exist. I believe the key elements to clear up would be the colour of the canton stripes and the orientation of the central emblem.
Santiago Dotor, 1 October 2001

I've seen this flag often, but never long and close enough to get a good look of the symbol. Until just now. I just saw in one of our channels' late night news a flag being waved in front of the camera and the symbol was very clear. And the conclusions are:
- The number of "points" is indeed 5. There's no doubt left about it;
- The "star" is not really a star, but quite flower-like instead;
- The shape of each point/petal is semicircular;
- The depressions are pointed
Of course, there's the possibility that this is simply a variation. But I'm absolutely positive that in that specific flag these were the characteristics of the symbol. It looked pretty professionally-made - no amateur stitching or painting.
Jorge Candeias, 15 October 2001

by Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán

This flag seems to be a variant of UFE 1 - it was seen on the TV news in Mexico. Black and white stripes over an orange square, the rest is green.
Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán, 13 October 2001

by Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán

Another version lacks the red-orange square.
Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán, 13 October 2001

UFE 2

This is probably a politically charged flag of Pakistani Islamists. It is a nearly square version of the flag of Pakistan, with a golden/yellow fringe and something written in yellow Arabic text below the crescent and star. The text is in the normal letters we see in Arabic websites and newspapers: longer than higher.
Jorge Candeias, 21 September 2001

UFE 3

This flag was seen accompanying the UFE 2 described above. It is a "normal" flag of Pakistan, except that the crescent and star was slightly shifted to the bottom, and a white text written above. The letters here were very similar to the shahada as we see it in the Saudi and Taliban flags, so I guess it was the shahada.
Jorge Candeias, 21 September 2001

One would need images to comment. Note also that Urdu and Farsi (and other local languages) are also written in Arabic script, so the writing on the flags might not be in the Arabic language.
Al Kirsch, 21 September 2001

UFE 4

by Santiago Dotor

I saw on Polish TG a flag hoisted during an anti-American demonstration in Pakistan (most probably in Peshawar). This flag does not seem to be any of Pakistani political movements' flags, nor it is the Taliban movement's flag, as far as the outside world knows anything about Taliban regime. It's probable that it's to connected to some political and religious movement involving Taliban and Pakistani Moslems.
Bartek Wojciechowski, 22 September 2001

There is something written under the crescent. Fortunately, in a TV news coverage this evening a slightly enlarged version of the flag appeared. I took a TV screenshot of it and analyzed the content of the inscription. Please note it has a rather low degree of accuracy, as:
- the shooting quality was poor
- transposing images via TV-MAC-PC gives shabby effects
- the flag appeared for mere 2.05 sec
- the flag was waving
- the flag (and letters) was actually inverted
- the flag appeared in the very corner of the TV screen
- I don't speak Urdu.

I have some knowledge of Persian (written in Arabic script as well) though and I tried to put down the letters: